Different Types of Immodesty
I finished this article and posted it in the Living section, but I left it up here so you can read the comments posted at the end of the article. -Jen
When you think of being immodest you probably think of wearing skimpy clothing. But there are actually many different types immodesty. It's not all about the way you dress-- it's also about the way you act, 'cause to be modest kinda means to be humble. And it's not just something that girls have trouble with-- guys display these types of immodesty all the time. Here are some types of immodesty I've noticed, because I have struggled with all of these myself at one time or another:
Look, I'm Rich! - Our culture tends to respect and envy people who have a lot of money. So when someone dresses or acts like they're rich, it's a way of showing off to try to get people to respect them more. For example, think of hip-hop artists or other celebrities who wear all the bling. People like this also like to talk about how much money and stuff they have. Some girls just have to have a PRADA purse or some other highly expensive brand. Yeah, the purses look nice, but how much of the money spent is for the style of the purse and how much of it is so that people will respect or envy them because of the brand? Some people spend every penny to show off in over-priced brands of clothes and shoes, when their money could better be used on something else. Some people get into a lot of debt so they can have an expensive brand new car. On a smaller level, some people have to show up on prom night in a limo and the most expensive dress, jewelry or tux whether they can afford it or not.
You might think "Well maybe they really are rich! What's wrong with having nice stuff?" There's nothing wrong with having nice things when you can afford it. But I've noticed that most good people who truly are wealthy and who have a high self-esteem aren't flashy about their money. They don't like to let on that they have a lot of money for many reasons. For one, they don't want to attract people who like them only for their money. They want to make true friendships based on who they are, not what they have. Also, they don't want to attract people who would try to use them or rob them. They want to be treated like an average person when they go out. For instance, they would ride in an averagely nice car to a restaurant so as not to draw attention to themselves. They wouldn't ride in a limo and come out all flashy like they're showing up to the Oscars. In other words, they are modest about their money.
On the other hand, if a person isn't rich but they're spending every penny to try to look rich, well, that's not very smart. They're really just making other people rich when you think about it.
Whether or not a person really is wealthy, showing off about it makes it seem that they might not have a very high self esteem because they're trying so hard to get people to notice and respect them.
Look, I'm Scary! - Some people try to look or act intimidating. They want to seem dangerous or threatening. Their attitude displays this immodesty, not just their looks. This is usually a defense mechanism because they feel scared or threatened themselves. They might also be trying to create a barrier between themselves and others because they've been hurt by people. Some people dress to express how dark, sad, frustrated or mad they feel. They want others to see they've had a hard life. I think Look, I'm Scary! can apply to the gangster style and people who are in gangs. Sometimes it can apply to goth, emo, or other alternative styles, and people with a lot of tattoos, piercings, etc.
Look, I'm Scary! can be immodest because it draws attention with extreme styles, and trying to draw attention to yourself is not modest. But mainly, it's not modest or Christ-like to want to be threatening, dark or intimidating. When a person comes to feel safe, loved and accepted, they usually lose the desire to dress or act in an intimidating way.
Look, I'm Sexy! - This is the obvious one. The unenlightened people who create most of the music on the radio, shows and music videos on TV, and movies in the theaters have succeeded in brainwashing us females. They've gotten girls and women to think that the only way to get a guy to like them is to tempt them sexually. Most good Christian and LDS girls have the righteous goal of getting married to a nice man and having a family. Obviously that starts with getting a guy to notice you and ask for your number.
But here's where we've gone wrong-- we think that we have to be sexier than the other girls to stand out in the crowd and catch a guy's eye. That's what the media has taught us. But by trying to look and act overly sexy, girls actually end up attracting men who are just interested in sex. And they are probably, at the same time, turning off the type of guy they're really looking for-- one who while being attractive and fun, is faithful in their religion and dedicated to God. A guy who has your same values is attracted by looks, but what keeps his interest is seeing that you have self-respect, are intelligent, and are faithful to your religion while also being fun and attractive.
Besides this, I think being overly sexy can actually scare off guys who might want to ask you out. If they're inexperienced in dating, not completely confident or afraid of rejection, they might pass on asking out who they deem to be the most sexy, attractive or popular girl. They might feel more comfortable asking out someone they think is more "in their league". The guy you have your eye on might seem confident to you, but he might actually be intimidated by you. I know this because my now husband seemed popular and confident when I met him, but he even later told me that he was afraid to ask me out because he thought I was somehow out of his league or that he wouldn't be my type. I don't think I was trying to be "overly sexy" at the time, but for whatever reason, he didn't think I would like him. It was only because I showed an active interest in him that we are together. If I had played "hard to get" he probably wouldn't have tried. So you never know what a guy is thinking!
By being overly sexy you won't scare off the "player" type who is very experienced in dating and who has an agenda. So again, trying to be sexy can alienate the type of guy you might be looking for while attracting the type who won't be good boyfriend or marriage material.
Look, I'm Awesome/Popular/Fashionable/Talented/Cool, etc! - As a child of God, you are probably at least one of the things listed here: awesome, popular, fashionable, talented, cool-- or maybe you are all of these. That's great, and really, it is to be expected! It's just immodest to show off about it.
All the types of immodesty listed here are ways people try to boost their self esteem and get attention. They are all in some way about showing off, and showing off is the opposite of being modest. Don't get me wrong-- we all want to feel good about ourselves. We all want attention, and we all want to feel loved and praised. It's a basic human need that starts when we're little children wanting to be praised by our parents, and it never really goes away. There is nothing wrong with it. It is one of the things that motivates us to do well.
I'm not the most modest person-- far from it. Sometimes people think because I started this website I must be an expert on modesty. In reality, I started this website because I struggle with modesty. I want to turn heads, and I want to be noticed for something. But there are times when I've realized how worldly that really is. For instance, if I walk into sacrament meeting at church dressed in a way that will turn heads and attract attention, aren't I distracting people from worshiping the Lord, which is the reason they are there? Trying to steal the attention from God and place it on myself could be considered a serious offense. Here's another thought-- perhaps by trying to show off and be better than each other in different ways, we are continually raising the bar a little higher, causing all of us to feel bad about ourselves because we can never realistically attain our goal.
So we can try to boost our self esteem by looking for attention in different ways, but the secret is that it will always leave us lacking and wanting more. There will always be someone more attractive, more talented, more popular, or who has more money. The way we can overcome low self esteem is by having a our self esteem based in the one thing that is rock solid and will never change: we are all children of God with individual purpose. Jesus Christ is our savior and best friend and loves us. When we base our self esteem on these beliefs, we don't have to prove anything to others to feel good about ourselves. "Remember the worth of souls is great in the sight of God;" (D&C 18:10)


26 Comments
Yes, this is written very well for young girls and women. It is easy to fallow and interesting to read because it of course addresses things that daunt us every day. I like both the modesty and dating writings.
Very Good!
I agree with the Modesty issue. I know people who dress modestly by wearing clothes that are not skimpy. They wear clothes that don't represent the church well though.
I just wish the modesty article would give examples to what is innapproiate.
thank you! i really like the things on this site. they are really helpful! im 14 and its not so easy to keep up my standards because even the girls in my ward dont try. sites like these encourage me to keep going strong no matter what my friends say. :-D
I think that the article is so true. If you think about it really is though. There are so many people like that in my school and I live in a mormom community, well, for the most part.
Thanks 4 this site. I luv it. I'm glad some people still believe in modesty. It's hard to want to be modest because my sister who I think is the coolest, thinks modesty's dumb. Thanks for showing a good example.
WOW! this really sums it up...thanx so much 4 making this site...im 18 and met the perfect guy who is leaving on a mission within a year and getting to that point hasn't been easy. we have both struggled with that but this site really gives me the motivation to move forward and keep our relationship in the church!!! it has helped me make up my mind and stay strong =)
I love this article! I have so many friends who want to look "sexy"! I t makes me so mad! I printed out this article and gave it to that friend, and she said this article was right!!
that is such a great story i love your web site it helps me understand alot more than before!
I guess I'm immodest, however everyone at church sees me as one of the best one's there. They're always telling me how nice I am and how charitable I am. My bishop just loves me.
But, I have a prada purse (oops, i'm rich), and gucci sunglasses.
I AM sexy. lol. I dress cute and people tell me its sexy...so chyea. I'm still "modest"
I used to be a goth. So um..the whole dark thing..don't talk about it unless you know. That's all I'm going to say for that one.
I think you need to state from what you know, not what you've been told. I'm not being rude. I'm just saying, by reading this its telling me I'm immodest. Which I'm not.
LC-
obviously you are immodest! Are you being a good example to other girls in your ward if you are dressing immodestly and admitting that you are immodest AND sexy? I think you need to review the "for the strength of youth" panthlete, and stop calling yourself sexy! You are a daughter of God, and it is disrespectful to call yourself sexy! If you still feel different, then email me at:
fantasticsams20@hotmail.com
I totaly agree with you.
Thank you very much for showing me that it isn't just in my community that "different types of immodesty" happen.
LC
Sorry girl, but what your saying is soo immodest. Immodesty is not only in your clothes but it's also in the way you speak.
If your justifying yourself in the way you look, ther's a problem. You have to be comfortable infront of our savior in your outfits.
And by the way, is your bishop you dad?
No hard fealings? Hope not...
I dont know, but all i gotta say is JEN YOU'RE AWESOME! WOOOHOO!! Thanks for motivating us to stay squeeky clean! YEAH!
Hey,
This article is awesome it really showed me were I might improve my wardrobe. It is so true and thank you so much for telling it to us straight out.
Oh......and LC please think and pray about what you are wearing. Just remember that you are to be representing the church and God in how you dress and how you ACT and what you SAY!!!!! Please humble yourself that you might be a better example to those in your ward.
Hi, I agree very much with the article :) I try my best to look, act and speak modestly, but why exactly is gothness immodest? Because it atracts attention?
We have a girl here in this school, she looks goth, but when I talked to someone, who knows her better, they said she wasn't, they said she was just modest and didn't like bright colours and skimpy outfits. Could someone interpret this, please?
P.S. I'm not really realigious, but i am very interested.
let me start by saying great artical top stuff it made me reconsiter my whole out look on cloths . i read may's comment and i thought this girl at your school just might like black .goth is a life style and a state of mind and if the kids at your school ever met a real goth they would not sterotype this girl anymore.i often get mistaken for a goth because i wear a lot of black and my hair is black and wear dr martin boots to school with a skirt but the truth is i just like the colour and i died my hair black because it makes my skin look clearer and the boots keep my feet dry.maybe i look immodest and scary to
What you guys are describing sounds perfectly modest.
What I'm talking about is really goth where you wear lots of black and white makeup, chains, skulls, lots of piercings, extreme hair, etc, and are obviously trying to look intimidating.
When I finish the article I'll explain that more in it.
lc- Have you ever noticed that some people get called cute, pretty, or gorgeous while others are called sexy? Maybe the difference is not only in the clothes you wear but in the people you hang out with, the way you talk, and the way your opinion of yourself shows in your expression and everything you do.
I'm sure you are a very kind and charitable person just like the people in your ward say you are, but if the way you dress in school doesn't show that, then even if you are a wonderful and modest young woman others might not be able to see that and assume you are a very different kind of girl.
You sound like a sweet and good daughter of God, but maybe you don't have enough respect for yourself. You sounded a little defensive, so maybe there really is a problem with how you dress. Just remember that your charity and other virtues will be enough to make you beautiful if you don't dress like the outside of you is more important than your beautiful heart. Don't get too caught up in worldly things. You can email me at tbride@comcast.net
Love ya!
Sometimes i hang out with some people who aren't exactly the best influence on me, and i think that it's ok. but really, when i think about all the stuff they talk about later, i realize that it really bugs me. i havent had the courage to tell them to stop yet, but i hope i will. i've also been really depressed for the last month and i had no idea why. but then i realized that when i started to get depressed, it was the same time i started to hang out with them. i just dont feel comfortable around then anymore because of their immodest dress and language. so im definately encouraging those out there in the same situation as me to speak out. it'll make you feel a whole TON better! its like they say: modest IS hottest, nomatter what type of modesty!
Thank you for answering :)
"...where you wear lots of black and white makeup, chains, skulls, lots of piercings, extreme hair,..."
Well now I understand what you meant. Good thing you're going to finish the article. Then it will be nice and clear!
Good job! Thank you!
And, Anonymous (At 4:08 PM),
I'm in a similar situation and your words are really encouraging! Good luck to you!
Do you know how many girls think that guys will like them if their sexy or cute? Well, let me say THEY DON'T!! Young Women and Men understand that people like it when you stay strong and ture to your values and if they don't then their loss. We were given these bodies for use but they are our sacred temples that we need to keep clean. Everytime I got to the temple I see them vacumming even though it is clean. They just want to keep it that way. And why shouldn't we with our own bodies. I will admit I were dark clothes but I am looked up at because nobody has seen me in an immodest dress of clothing or swim wear in years. And personaly why should we say other people think this way? They're not perfect, trying sure but they are not perfect yet.
I get confused alot because of people being told by church leaders, like Young Women or Men or even the Bishopiric that they're very cute. I even noticed that with the guys who go to church. I find this very hurting especially since clothing is very needful it holds alot of how we feel or what we are. I'm just confused because I don't have that great of friends. I'm the oldest of the Young Women but the Young Women are only five and they all wear something that is immodest. I don't know what to do and when I go to Youth Conference they wear it then too. But up at the Temple they were very modest things. Why can't we wear it all the time. I'll definatly send this to those people I need the help as well as they do.
I like the fact that you show immodesty as it is found in the way you act as well as how you dress. I think a lot of young women and men think that modesty only applies to how you dress, and even then that it only has to do with dressing skimpy.
I know that some of the most modest people i know not only make sure none of their clothing is revealing, but that it's neither flashy nor grungy. And I think if you picture some of the most modest people you know and you'll notice the radiance they have. They seem to smile more and are more confident. And I think that's way more important than just looking good.
I think all people should just have their own way of doing things, and be open minded about other peoples opinions and way of dressing. I believe in being a modest dresser myself. However,to LC I dont see anything wrong with dressing in an upper class way if you have money. Also even though I am not a goth dresser yet, I personally see nothing wrong with it as long as you arent a devil-worshiping, harmful psychopath.
You know, sometimes, it's not just what you know inside yourself, but what others would interpret you as by your style, attitude, and clothes. The first thing you see usually is somebody's clothes. That kind of makes a big impression. So, if you look goth, they might think you're goth. You could attract unwanted attention, or make people shy away from you. Just make sure that you're clothes don't send the wrong message to other people. And remember, the first impression usually lasts a long time.
Hey everyone. I just wanted to say thanks for leaving your comments and especially thanks to Jen for going outta ur way to help us all. Thats so kool of you. and your so right about the modesty stuff. Like the scriptures say what we think projects anmd becomes what we are. So if we have immodest attitudes that will affect the dress and speach and company we have.
It makes me feel so good and comforted to know that there are so many others out there fighting to live the right way, like i am. So thank you everyone. lots of love from down under.
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